VINH GIANG

Episode (39) Vinh Giang – Your existence is a MIRACLE. How to take do what you LOVE not what you think you SHOULD.

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Vinh Giang Is an online entrepreneur, magician and keynote speaker. His business 52Kards.com has helped over 900,000 people learn the art of magic, earning him the accolade of South Australia’s young entrepreneur of the year.

On todays show,
Vinh Giang shares his ‘Life Changing Question’. A question that has led him to become young entrepreneur of the year, to teach 900,000 people magic, and rock global stages with his unique presentations, and powerful metaphor.

Vinh Giang is Sharing His Life Changing Question. You can listen here Click To Tweet
You are a different person at different phases of your life, stop trying to hang onto the old version of you”… Click To Tweet

Vinh also covers
o How he quit university to teach people magic, and went on to create an online program that has 900,000 students.
o How ‘magic’ helps you resolve complex problems.
o Magic is ‘a problem you can’t solve’; business is also about solving problems. To solve problems, it is critical to take on different perspectives.
o Those perspectives can come from different people, and different fields.
o If you stay in your own environment, your mind closes, and that’s dangerous for business.
o Why you should meet with someone from a different background from you every couple of weeks.
o “You are a different person at different phases of your life, stop trying to hang onto the old version of you” Adam Cheyer
o Our old friendship groups may have in interest in holding you where you are, but, we are designed to evolve
o If you’re feeling a lot of emotion brewing inside of you, it could be the cue that it is time to start a new chapter in your life – evolve – don’t get stuck on chapter 1.
o Be able to say ‘sorry, I can’t help’.
o The fact that you are alive is a MIRACLE!
o If your life is a minute long, you may only have 20 or 30 seconds remaining right now. Make sure you do what you LOVE not what you think you SHOULD.
o Life Changing Question: ‘If you are only here for 1 minute in your life time, and you have lived 20 seconds already, what are you going to do with the remaining 40 seconds?’ On average we live 80 years, do what you LOVE.
o Doing what you LOVE brings JOY, JOY is infectious to others
o Life Changing Question 2: ‘How do you do that?’ Always ask this when you see someone doing what you want to do. It is a humanizing question, and if the person you ask is living in abundance, they’ll tell you.
o Vinh’s bucket list item is to unveil the iPhone 10 for Apple!
o “It is amazing what you can happen for you if you take the chance and bet on yourself” Vinh Giang

Resources Mentioned in this show:
https://www.facebook.com/askvinh/
https://52kards.com/
http://vinhgiang.com.au/
Adam Cheyer – creator of Siri.

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Transcription

 

KEVIN:

On today’s show we have Vinh Giang.  Vinh has been the South Australian entrepreneur of the year.  He is a magician.  He has a love for both business and magic and so when he presents, he actually uses magic as a metaphor on how to grow your business.  We’ve got such a fantastic interview today.  Please welcome to the show, Vinh Giang.

 

If just one question could immediately transform the quality of your life or the results of your business, would you want to know what that questions was?  Life and business strategist, Kevin Bees interviews success masters to discover their life-changing questions.  Welcome to the Life-Changing Questions podcast.

 

KEVIN:

Vinh, welcome to the call!  So great to connect with you.

 

VINH:

Thanks, Kevin.  Thanks for having me.

 

KEVIN:

So Vinh, I’d just love to, we just shared there in your Bio, around your background, how you were young entrepreneur of the year in South Australia.  I would love for you to fill in the blanks.  Give us a little bit more detail about how that journey happened?  How you grew to such a great position?

 

VINH:

Well, thanks for such a lovely introduction.  But one of the most important things, I think, in my youth was that I realised University wasn’t for me.  And I actually dropped out 6 months before I was supposed to graduate Commerce and Law.  So that was a shock to my parents, having Asian parents, they freaked the hell out.  But then my mum and dad are really special.  They backed me.  And I wanted to do a business on the internet to teach magic tricks.  If I just do a long story short, we are now five years later; last year we had just joined forces with one of the online spaces largest magic schools called 52kards, spelt with a ‘K’.  And together now, we’ve got over 900,000 students.  And along that journey, we took some boxes and we won the SA young entrepreneur of the year award.  But that was so pivotal, like that was so important to me winning that because winning that was a validation that I was on the right track.  Because I’ve never achieved any major academic awards, but winning that was just such a great foundation for me to then do it everything that I have now on.  I needed some kind of validation and that was it for me.  That’s where I went, ‘Okay, all in!’

 

KEVIN:

Great and guess you don’t have any regrets about not finishing your Accounting and Commerce Degree.

 

VINH:

[0:02:06] I see my old text books and they honestly make me want to vomit in the back of my throat, so…

 

KEVIN:

I mean, I know when you present, you present certainly a lot using the metaphor of magic, I mean, given that your business background, I wondered if  you could tell us a little bit more about how that’s relevant to the business owners and business leaders that you talk with.

 

VINH:

Yeah, look, at the end of the day when you really think about what magic is, like what is it?  If I performed the trick for you, what is it?  I mean, like because we’ve got [0:02:35] it’s like what I did at the ____, I think that’s where you saw me?

 

KEVIN:

Yes.

 

VINH:

If I show you this, for your viewers who are watching this, if they see a card now and it changes, what is magic?  Magic is just a problem you can’t solve.  So that’s the same thing in business.  In business there are so many problems we can’t solve. Its difficult problems that magicians create for you, not to be [0:02:56].  So magicians actually inherently understand and have a lot of depth and insight into problem solving.  Because we create problems for a living, we have to.  That’s the nature of what we do and there’s nothing worse in the world than shit magic, to be quiet frank.  So we have to create really complex problems, so when I do speak, I give people lot of insight into ‘how do you solve some of the most complex problems created by human beings’ and business is also a ___ filled with problems created by human beings.  So there’s [0:03:24].

 

KEVIN:

Yeah, really fantastic and what you think are some of the key things that as business owners, business leaders, we can do to begin to resolve some of the problems that we create or we find ourselves in?

 

VINH:

A huge part of the solution is to engage in many different perspectives and what I  mean by that is, what we tend to do is, we tend to just cluster and then spend time with the same people in our same industry in our same association in our same work place in our same company.  What happens is, everyone around you thinks very similar to you because they’ve had very similar life experiences ____, you went to Uni, you started the same thing, you are around the same people, around the same industry, and that causes a group [0:04:02] so what I think is really wonderful is that, when I look back at my own history, if I spend all of my time with magicians, I would have never done the online business.  It was the perspective of an online business person that showed me an opportunity that was right next to me that I couldn’t see.  If I spent all of my time with just magicians and online business people, I would have never started my speaking career.  It was the perspective of a speaker that he saw something in me.  I couldn’t see myself.  So again, how many wonderful things are you not doing?  How many wonderful opportunities are you not seizing because you’re relying on your own perspective and you fall victim to [0:04:34] and you are looking at things only from your point of view and you ask all of your friends and colleagues, who have the exact same point of view as you.  So what I do, still to today, is I try to seek people who have completely different perspective [0:04:47] and I think that’s what’s wonderful about what you’re doing, Kevin.  You are speaking to people in all different fields which is important because that’s what keeps your mind open and if you just keep staying within your own environment, what happens is your mind begins to close.  And I think that’s really dangerous for business and life in general.

 

KEVIN:

Well, of course and particularly when you think about this many large organisations, who have kept their mind close to technology that’s coming along and I think of like the Blockbusters and the Kodak and they didn’t necessarily, they may have heard this [0:05:14] but they didn’t fully tell them on board and now, of course, paid large _____ as a consequence, so you are advocating an element of diversity and bringing in diversity into team, into thinking, having a different point of view.  So what are some of the best ways that we can do that key thing?

 

VINH:

Well, I always, once a fortnight, I try to have at least a 2-3 hour conversation with someone who is in a completely different industry to me.  So, one of my good friends in Sydney that I met because I was speaking at a conference, we became good friends.  He is a plumber and I just said ‘Hey, man, I have never been able to pick your brains.  I’d love to sit with you.  We can have a chat ___ like we’re doing now’ and I just shared with him, so one and a half hours I get, the other one and a half hour he gets.  And I go, ‘I’m just gonna bring to you 3 of my biggest business problems and I’m just gonna ask you what you think.’  And it’s incredible because it’s the people you least expect that give you some of the most incredible pieces of advice that will change your business.  And I learned some incredible marketing strategies from him that I never thought about and I was there, well, actually I didn’t share anything with him because I couldn’t add any value.  But it was incredible how much value he added to me.  And what I do is, I schedule these in.  I [0:06:22] with this.  And I am relentless because I pick really crazy people to do this with.  ____ my good friend who’s from Sydney now, but then also 2 weeks ago and this had been in the works for a long time, but I got to spend 3 days with the guy, with the guy who created Siri, Adam Cheyer, and ____ and spent 3 days with him and again that’s picking that different perspective and that was life changing.  It was crazy.

 

Kevin:

Tell us about that because I guess clearly this device, Siri, now will be on hundreds and millions of devices, if not billions of devices, I am not sure of the numbers there [0:06:56] man behind that craze.  What may be the top 1 or 2 things that you took away from that meeting?

 

VINH:

The first thing that I really loved getting from Adam and I remember this because I spent time at his place and then we took the train into his work and we took the train home and the train there and the train back was fully, honestly too life changing hours for me.  And the first thing that he said that really just hit home was, he said, ‘You’re a different person at different phases of your life.  Stop trying to hang on to the old you.’  And that was huge for me because I am going through a lot of those problems.  I thinks it’s because sometimes as you’re evolving because it’s natural to evolve, when you’re changing who you are, your values, you’re changing; everything changes, your goals, everything.  What happens is, our old friendship group sometimes, not intentionally, but our friends a lot of the times they don’t want us to change.  And if you do change, sometimes you get the whole ‘Oh! You’ve changed’ and that causes over a pain in my heart which forces me to try to stay the same.  So him saying that really gave me freedom to evolve.  And I think we are all supposed to evolve; we are all supposed to change.  And change is not a bad thing; it’s actually a great thing.  So he phrases this in those changes happen in chapters in our lives and that our lives are chapters and there are different chapters to different parts of our lives and we have to be aware when the chapter is ending, when a new chapter is beginning.  And he says that you know when one chapter is ending and one is beginning because there’s a lot of emotions starting to brew inside of you.  So when that happens you have to be aware of it, be conscious of it, and allow yourself to feel it and then evolve through it; start a whole new chapter.

 

KEVIN:

Huh!

 

VINH:

That was huge for me.

 

KEVIN:

I love that.  It is huge and I think it is very great for us to notice then that if those emotions are coming up and potentially we are feeling [0:08:36] that could be the _____ that it’s time to shift or change from one place to another and I think you made a really valid point in there as well around friends and as you grow sometimes they have a vested interest in keeping you where you are, not because they don’t love you and they don’t care for you, but because as you grow they don’t wanna have you leave them and they certainly don’t wanna feel bad that you are progressing and they are not, so subconsciously that can happen, so I think that’s a really fantastic point.  The key message in there was, stop trying to hang on to the old you; that’s really, really fascinating.

 

VINH:

You are supposed to evolve.  A lot of us are still stuck on chapter 1 whereas we should have been on chapter 2 or 3 now.  We should have evolved multiple times.  And it comes down to one thing as well, it’s as we grow older we have lost the ability to make new friends.  And I think that’s just something to be really conscious of.  It’s the same way you make friends when you are young, you know, you find people who are as beautiful because you find people who love what you love and that’s your compass in your heart for you to use to find your new friends and it’s important to do that; that’s a huge part of how you evolve.

 

KEVIN:

Yeah, massive!  Really important point.  Now one thing I’m interested in, you said you had a good conversation with the plumber and you couldn’t add any value to him.  I’m sure he could find some great use for some magic tricks when he goes out there.  If he could quickly as a flick of a wrist fix the plumbing problems the same way that you do the magic with the cards, it could work very well.

 

VINH:

Yeah, [0:09:53] I hope so.  You know, again he added so much value to me and its funny because I sometimes I go into conversations thinking I can add a lot of value and he shared with me some problems, I am like ‘Oh!  Damn its complex.  I’m sorry, I can’t help’ and it’s important to be able to say that.  I just learned how to do that in the last couple of years.  I always wanted to know all the answers, but now I almost take pride in saying ‘I don’t know’.

 

KEVIN:

Yeah and I think that’s very powerful to be able to say that.

 

VINH:

Yeah.

 

KEVIN:

And tell us regarding then your online program, it sounds like and actually a major success, I mean particularly 52kards, now that you’ve combined and [0:10:25] people that you are serving, tell us a little bit about that inspiration as to why you chose that?  You had this probably very financially good future being in accounting and commerce, but you chose to step into this field of magic and in educating people in the way, just a little bit about the inspiration for that and the opening of that chapter.

 

VINH:

It all came down to my dad helping me realize the fact that I’m alive is, it’s a miracle.  Because my dad and mom are refugees from Vietnam and they had to escape from war out on the ocean for weeks before they got to the refugee island and then survived — and they came to Australia.  So it was just my dad saying that ‘if you think that was impossible, son, then I’m going to stack on top of that.  Just imagine 50,000 generations before that.  Every single human in our blood line, in our family had to meet the right person and if one of them died along the way, that’s how entire blood line vanished from this earth, so it took millions of years of serendipitous events for you to actually exist.  And now that you exist, you’re here for 83 years on average for a western man, right?’  And he said, ‘When you compare the millions of years that have took for you exist versus the matter of time that you are here for, your life for a minute and you have lived 20 seconds of it.  What will you do with the 40 seconds that you have left?’  That really caused a lot of psychological damage for me.  Because as I was growing, I’m like, ‘Shit, I have got 40 seconds left’ and so he made me understand the urgency that exists and the little time we have that we spend wasting, doing something that we feel we should be doing because society has a default script for us.  The moment we’re born, in my culture, there’s a default script, that you should go through school, get all ‘A’s, get into University, get into a really good degree, really good course,                                                                                                                  after that make a lot of money, buy a property, pay it off, get another property, pay it off, get another property, pay it off and just do a large property portfolio and that was the part I started to work unconsciously because I love my parents and that’s in my culture the way you show love is you do all these things.  And I said, ‘Dad, that’s not love.  Love is me sitting down with you, hugging you, telling you I love you.  And my life is meant to be spent doing what I love’ and my dad really helped me become aware of that.  So when you really help him become aware of that, I was like, ‘Crap, I don’t wanna spend my last 40 seconds here, doing accounting and law, that’s not me, that’s definitely not me.  I really dislike it.  I did it because I thought that’s how I showed love to you and now that you tell me that’s not how I love  you, then I’m out.’

 

KEVIN:

Ha, ha, ha, get out!

 

VINH:

I’m out because the only reason I was doing it was because out of respect and love.  And when you freed me of that, I’m like, ‘Hell, I do not want to do this.  I know that I don’t wanna do this.  I just didn’t dare to disrespect the opportunity you’ve given me and I didn’t dare to well, I didn’t wanna not love you because I do.’  And I think a lot of people of my culture especially mix that up.  They feel that they have to do this to make their parents proud and happy.  No, no.  Your parents are proud and happy if you are happy.  You know like, that’s what gives them joy, not you being a doctor, not you being a lawyer or accountant.  It’s when you are smiling and you love your life, that’s what makes your parents happy.  So I knew what I loved.  I knew it all along.  It’s just I needed to be free to ____  chase what I love.

 

KEVIN:

I love it!  What a powerful message!  And I know of course the topic of this podcast is around the quality of the questions we ask and how they impact the quality of your life.

 

VINH:

I love that, I love that.

 

KEVIN:

I think we probably just heard your answer in there to that, the question that’s had the impact on you, certainly had a major impact on you was, if you’re only here for a minute in this lifetime and you have lived 20 seconds of it already, what are you going to do with the remaining 40 seconds and the answer of that shouldn’t be that you are gonna do what you think you should do or society tells you, what you think your parents want, you [0:14:03] go after the thing that’s gonna make you smile and love your life.

 

VINH:

Yeah and then if you think at the end of the day, like my grandma, she passed away at 101, got lymphoma cancer at 86, survived it and I was there till her very last moment and I was sitting by her side, our whole family was in the room, she passed away in her home.  It was very beautiful, it was very graceful and every step of the way, there was no regret, there was no fear.  My grandma didn’t fear death and I know she didn’t fear death because she had lived a good life.  She was happy.  She raised great children.  She raised children who are happy.  She raised grand children who are good people and seeing that, wow, was such a contrast to some of the experiences I’ve had of other people close to me who passed away, where it’s fear, it’s regret, its filled with [0:14:52] again that would just that regret, so I know that I’ve got less than 19,000 days left and I’m gonna spend it doing what I enjoy.  I’m not gonna focus on just earning.  I think a lot of the times we focus on just earning, we just focus on making money.  There’s a great line, ‘Money doesn’t make you happy, but everyone wants to find out for themselves’, right?

 

KEVIN:

[Laughs]

 

VINH:

What if we could skip a bit of that and just understand that if every morning  you could wake up honestly doing what you just really loved, you would be such a better mum or a dad to your children because that joy is infectious and that joy impacts their quality of life and that’s how I think.  I have got a boy on the way and he can be born any minute now in the next 2 weeks and that’s what I think of.  Every day I do something I love.  I bring the best version of me home to my boy.  Like, there’s no stress, there’s no anger.  I bring the best version of me home and I think that’s a huge ingredient that kids need.

 

KEVIN:

Well, congratulations!  I’m very excited for you.

 

VINH:

Thank you!

 

KEVIN:

So baby boy along the way.

 

VINH:

Yeah!

 

KEVIN:

Daughter arrived 3 months ago and…

 

VINH:

Oh, congratulations!

 

KEVIN:

So I’m feeling the excitement for you.  Life is gonna change and I love that you are bringing that joy to him.  That’s really wonderful and now fingers crossed for your wife that you have a very easy process.

 

VINH:

No, no, thank you.  We were training like every day; we were practicing all the labour stuff, so it’s great.

 

KEVIN:

Ok, wonderful!

 

VINH:

Just quickly as well, I wanted to share with you another question that I feel is so important to ask, okay?  And it’s the question everybody asks me the moment I perform a magic trick.  Do you know what it is, Kevin?

 

KEVIN:

How did you do that?  How did you do that?

 

VINH:

Yes, correct, correct.  So, this is the question you have to ask when you see someone doing something that you wanna do.  Because the crazy thing is when every time I’m before magic, you are right, people always go, ‘Oh, my God, how do you do that, Jim?’  Now I never tell you because as a magician we are sworn to secrecy, right?  But now I’ll tell you if you bug me long enough, but the thing is what’s interesting is, in life we don’t ask that.  So every time like when I first discovered I really wanted to be a speaker, I just looked for one of the best speakers in Australia and I found a way to get his attention and after that I said, ‘Hey, how do you do that?’  And most people aren’t like magicians and jerks, so they tell you; they tell you how to they do that.  And that is such a humanizing question to ask because we make all these crazy assumptions in our brain that stop us from even asking the question and I think ‘How do you do magic?  How do you create a magical life?  How do you create a magic trick?  How do you perform a magic trick?’  Yeah, ask them how they did it.  And in every other area in life, people are not sworn to this brotherhood of secrecy, they can tell you; they will tell you.  Especially if they have achieved what you are after and they are living in abundance of course they will tell you.  They have nothing to lose.  And I think our fear of asking that question and our own internal mindset that causes us not to ever ask that question is a huge part of our downfall.

 

KEVIN:

I love that!  Very powerful.  So ‘how do you do that?’  So find that person that really inspires you [0:17:57] the goal or the outcome that living a life that you want.  Find a way to get their attention and of course ask them ‘How did you do that?  How do you do that?’  And one of the things that you said in the middle of that, you said about do things that bring you joy so the joy is infectious.  You ___ got 19,000 days left, so live, you know.  What are some of the things that potentially you have on your bucket list.  Maybe there’s this one thing that you still really want to do and you haven’t done yet, what would that be?

 

VINH:

Okay, I love this question because I’m going to give you a slightly ridiculous item on my bucket list and I have got a very large one.  I want to be the person announcing the new iphone 10.  I want Apple to one day, when I get good enough, recognize how good I am as a presenter and speaker that they want me to unveil one of their new products.  And that’s a huge goal of mine.  Its why again I’m trying to good relationship with key people, they have connections in all of those areas because I love Apple.  I’m the biggest Apple fan.  I talk about Apple in every one of my keynotes all over the world and I’m a huge fan.  Huge fan.  And that’s a big item on my bucket list.

 

KEVIN:

Wow!  I’m excited already.  I’m looking forward to seeing that happen and when it does happen I’m going to say, ‘Hey, I interviewed that guy!’ no?

 

VINH:

Yes, yes, yeah!

 

KEVIN:

[0:19:17] on the podcast.

 

VINH:

And ____ after I do that they still would give me an iphone for free.

 

KEVIN:

Ha, ha, ha, you would hope so, you would hope so.

 

VINH:

You bloody hope so, yeah, but you know, honestly that was one of my crazy dreams was I wanna direct a movie, I wanted to speak, and unveil an Apple product and I wanted to become a speaker, you know.  These are my peak things that I wanted to try and it was crazy; it’s crazy how much can happen for you if you just take the chance and bet on yourself.

 

 

KEVIN:

I like it.  Take the chance and bet on yourself.  And who knows maybe its iphone 10, maybe its even iphone 9 or iphone 8, who knows. They are still to come out, right?

 

VINH:

Exactly.  One thing we know for sure it’s I will definitely never ever unveil an android phone, for sure.  That’s for sure.

 

KEVIN:

Okay.  You are very clear on that.  If you are listening from the android corporation, not interested.

 

VINH:

Definitely not.

 

KEVIN:

So I wonder if there was just one book that you could recommend for our listeners to read, and that would be a must read, what would that be?

 

VINH:

Ha, man, this is a really hard question, Kevin, because I read all the time and I have to say the one that’s helped me recently the most that I’ve read multiple times now, has been Robert Greene, his book ‘The 48 Laws of Power’ and his book ‘Mastery’.  Sorry, squeezed in a second.  But these two books have really helped me because as I am venturing into the U.S, now building my speaking career and my video production business over there, it’s helping me in navigate the business place.  It’s helping me understand strategy, executing strategy and also being very wary.  You know, it’s true there are bad people in this world and you are going to encounter them, so you must learn how to protect yourself.  You must learn how to avoid these bad people and there’s a great quote from the book where it says ‘There are limitations to kindness.  Hold a bee in your hand and tell the bee you love it and you will find the limitations of kindness.’  So to me it’s a book that when you read, you go, ‘Oh, my God, this book is evil’ because you will feel that.  Don’t learn to become evil.  Learn it to understand what to look out for and learn it to understand the strategy and I think that’s it helped me grow in a space that I have been a little bit naive about.  So, yeah, it’s helped me immensely.

 

 

KEVIN:

So ‘48 Laws’ and ‘Mastery’ by Robert Greene.  Fantastic recommendation.  All those details will be on the page notes, if you are listening.  And if the listeners want to get in contact with you or spent some time with you or find out more about what you do, what would be the best place for them to go to find out more?

 

VINH:

Look, I think the best place you can go is my facebook front page, you can go to facebook.com/askvinh, which is v-i-n-h and the reason being is that I’m trying to share the lessons that I’m learning.  And one of the reasons I’m doing this is that to me it’s an insurance policy for me, so if one day I die, my kids now have a vault of videos from me sharing the lessons as I learn them, that’s why I am really doing it because I wish I could see my dad work [0:22:05] when he was 30.  I wish I could see what my dad was doing when he was 28, so I have been doing videos for a very long time now and to me I have got on 3 hard drives at home, just in case my house burns down, I have got one __ in my mate’s place as well.  I do this because this is me living and I am able to be transparent about it and hopefully the way I live my life now will inspire my children at a later point.

 

KEVIN:

Fantastic. So, on facebook.com/askvinh.  So we really appreciate your time today this, there’s so many proverbs of wisdom in this, so I can’t thank you enough for your time and energy.  So thank you so much for being on this show today.

 

VINH:

Thank you, Kevin.  Thanks for listening everyone.

 

Thanks so much for listening to the life-changing questions podcast with your host, Kevin Bees.  We’ll catch you next time.

 

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